OverPowered Police VS Drug Runners

[Moonhorse 79]

After 1hr of trying to do a cocaine run and evading police we managed to get to the gang hideout to process . After years of waiting for the flag to be replaced we managed and then a message was sent to whole server that it was .. After 1 mins a police officer WolfSLayer Blufor  came with  a rocket little bird and blew us up in 10 seconds .. 1hr vs 10 seconds . ... Video Below . At this point its useless to do drug runs if cops no longer do raids but spawn a heli and bomb the area , how is that even realistic or close to role play .    https://plays.tv/video/5c466e80191a1a5d63/after-1hr-gathering-cocaine-driving-all-over-map-trying-avoid-cops-we-get-douche-bag-with-rocket-little

[Mez 186]

This is why the rule should be added back that you must have 4 members of blufor to raid a gang area and you must announce in global that you're raiding and for the gangsters to put their hands up. Also you can have less than 4 guys if there's less than 4 on.

[JUDGE 124]

Well he should be blacklisted because the rocket heli on civvies In a gang area Is a nono

[JumpyWizard 91]

On 1/22/2019 at 3:15 AM, JUDGE said:

Well he should be blacklisted because the rocket heli on civvies In a gang area Is a nono

Would you so kindly find that in the rules for me?

[JUDGE 124]

7 minutes ago, JumpyWizard said:

Would you so kindly find that in the rules for me?

You're a staff member lol you should know. Rule 5 in martial law rules, ah6j donor is the rocket heli which is a martial law only vehicle. I'm guessing martial law wasn't declared and even if it was the gang area Is nowhere near 250 or however much it was meters from the border, this was used to go straight to gang area and blow them up. Also, blufor are required to attempt arrest always first, in this case the blufor straight up engaged with rockets before the gang area could even shoot at them.

Also, since you want to be pointy and rude, how are you staff again? 

[Jake Thompson 63]

Martial law was declared. So he was in full right to use the Little bird with rockets. It might of been overkill but from a staff point we cannot do anything. 

[Moonhorse 79]

All I know is one thing . I barely see people doing drug runs because at the end its never worth it and almost works more in favour of the Police . Rubies is the way to go .  Its a shame we wanted to get some adrenaline but I guess not . 

[Mez 186]

47 minutes ago, Moonhorse said:

All I know is one thing . I barely see people doing drug runs because at the end its never worth it and almost works more in favour of the Police . Rubies is the way to go .  Its a shame we wanted to get some adrenaline but I guess not . 

It's cause Blufor is the most toxic faction

[JumpyWizard 91]

2 hours ago, JUDGE said:

You're a staff member lol you should know. Rule 5 in martial law rules, ah6j donor is the rocket heli which is a martial law only vehicle. I'm guessing martial law wasn't declared and even if it was the gang area Is nowhere near 250 or however much it was meters from the border, this was used to go straight to gang area and blow them up. Also, blufor are required to attempt arrest always first, in this case the blufor straight up engaged with rockets before the gang area could even shoot at them.

Also, since you want to be pointy and rude, how are you staff again? 

I am well aware of the rules regarding vehicles for use in or outside of Martial Laws (lol). The way you worded yourself, according to me, it sounded like you were questioning why he was either using rockets on infantry, or killing him on sight in gang area.

Blufor are not by the rules required to arrest first in gang areas. It is specified that the Gang Areas are KOS zones, so it is up to the own players discretion whether or not they want to try and arrest the gang members. 

Also, since you want to be pointy and rude, who are you even?

[JumpyWizard 91]

2 hours ago, JUDGE said:

You're a staff member lol you should know. Rule 5 in martial law rules, ah6j donor is the rocket heli which is a martial law only vehicle. I'm guessing martial law wasn't declared and even if it was the gang area Is nowhere near 250 or however much it was meters from the border, this was used to go straight to gang area and blow them up. Also, blufor are required to attempt arrest always first, in this case the blufor straight up engaged with rockets before the gang area could even shoot at them.

Also, since you want to be pointy and rude, how are you staff again? 

Oh I almost forgot. What do you mean with "I'm guessing martial law wasn't declared and even if it was the gang area is nowhere near 250 meters from the border" Well if Martial Law is declared, the vehicles can be used anywhere on the map.

[Mez 186]

48 minutes ago, JumpyWizard said:

I am well aware of the rules regarding vehicles for use in or outside of Martial Laws (lol). The way you worded yourself, according to me, it sounded like you were questioning why he was either using rockets on infantry, or killing him on sight in gang area.

Blufor are not by the rules required to arrest first in gang areas. It is specified that the Gang Areas are KOS zones, so it is up to the own players discretion whether or not they want to try and arrest the gang members. 

Also, since you want to be pointy and rude, who are you even?

But as staff shouldn't you encourage RP and less KOS?

Also JUDGE was administrator on a previous version of TLX.

[JumpyWizard 91]

5 minutes ago, Mez said:

But as staff shouldn't you encourage RP and less KOS?

Also JUDGE was administrator on a previous version of TLX.

Of course, we should always try and encourage the best possible roleplay situations. And with the new rule changes coming soon and with the faction leaders, stupid rules like Gang Areas being KOS will be removed, hopefully at least. What I was saying is that what he did wasn't against the rules in any way.

Always see him on the forums, never seen him before in-game. But I have only been here for a year now. Now I finally know who he is haha

[Mez 186]

2 minutes ago, JumpyWizard said:

Of course, we should always try and encourage the best possible roleplay situations. And with the new rule changes coming soon and with the faction leaders, stupid rules like Gang Areas being KOS will be removed, hopefully at least. What I was saying is that what he did wasn't against the rules in any way.

Always see him on the forums, never seen him before in-game. But I have only been here for a year now. Now I finally know who he is haha

ye ye

[JUDGE 124]

1 hour ago, JumpyWizard said:

Oh I almost forgot. What do you mean with "I'm guessing martial law wasn't declared and even if it was the gang area is nowhere near 250 meters from the border" Well if Martial Law is declared, the vehicles can be used anywhere on the map.

I meant to say what you are saying, I thought about fixing it but posting through my phone is annoying, I meant to say even if it wasn't I should have corrected it

If ml isn't on ml vics can only be used within so many meters of the border I dunno if it's 250 or not don't quote me can't remember exactly

 

[JumpyWizard 91]

Just now, JUDGE said:

I meant to say what you are saying, I thought about fixing it but posting through my phone is annoying, I meant to say even if it wasn't I should have corrected it

No worries my guy

[JUDGE 124]

1 hour ago, JumpyWizard said:

I am well aware of the rules regarding vehicles for use in or outside of Martial Laws (lol). The way you worded yourself, according to me, it sounded like you were questioning why he was either using rockets on infantry, or killing him on sight in gang area.

Blufor are not by the rules required to arrest first in gang areas. It is specified that the Gang Areas are KOS zones, so it is up to the own players discretion whether or not they want to try and arrest the gang members. 

Also, since you want to be pointy and rude, who are you even?

Main deal was the rockets on gang area but after finding out ml was declared there is nothing staff can do. The whole thing about trying to arrest first, the gang area rule does overturn it but the whole thing with RP and actual fair engagement comes to mind for me. 

[JUDGE 124]

26 minutes ago, Mez said:

But as staff shouldn't you encourage RP and less KOS?

Also JUDGE was administrator on a previous version of TLX.

Also, yeah like mez said Im an old player like 4 or 5 years and I went from TS helper to mod to admin over the course of like almost a whole year on the server. 

[JumpyWizard 91]

13 minutes ago, JUDGE said:

I meant to say what you are saying, I thought about fixing it but posting through my phone is annoying, I meant to say even if it wasn't I should have corrected it

If ml isn't on ml vics can only be used within so many meters of the border I dunno if it's 250 or not don't quote me can't remember exactly

 

It is 250 meters, so I'll quote you on that haha