Garry_hippo

I posted almost this exact same issue, right before you did i believe, and Giovani's didnt seem very concerned (that I saw from his comments) He actually almost supported the legitimacy of the rule. Admin Winters also dismissed this issue, stating that admins will always punish people who behave like these RDMers we have been talking about. (which we know has never happend, due to them hiding behind these very unspecific rules.) Not flaming staff just stating what ive been seeing. I dont think they really know whats happening. POST V

Until the rule is changed, just rdm those trolls whenever you see them from this rule: Civilians are permitted to kill Independents if they pose a direct lethal threat. You could probably come up with dozens of BS reasons that could "technically" make indeps a direct threat, but that would be fine because the trolls would have already stooped to that BS level, with their constant RDMing of unarmed civs. Idk they might not even acknolwedge this post, but if you make a player report, then they are gurantee'd to see this issue and talk to you.

report these guys on the forums. BEcause the rules are so unspecific, and what those trolls are doing is technically allowed, the report may not be successful, but it will definantly grab the attention of staff and maybe they can alter the rule.

Staff couldnt do anything about because it is technically WITHIN the rules. Yes staff knows what is considered a "Planned terror attack" but alot of these trolls/rdmers whip out the rule book like its the friggen Constitution. They always bring up the point that the rules technically allow their behavior (due to it's unspecifics), and staff obviously cant do anything about it once this card is pulled.

You guys dont believe me but look here (recent) this stuff is happening. The RDMrs in this guys' video were the exact same guys who i was talking about in my initial post. These guys play all the time and use the "planned terror attack" excuse to get away with everything. Noone activates this rule except for these guys. You guys say you dont believe me when I say that staff havn't been able to stop these RDMers, but look in this guys post ^. The exact same thing happened to him where staff weren't able to do anything. OKay, the rule shouldnt be deleted, but the rules are not specific enough on what is considered a planned terror attack. It does not say that planned terror attacks can only be against opfor and bluefor, and that civs can only be collateral. As of now, the rules let indeps technically rdm unarmed civs whenever they want, as the rule isnt specific enough. I think i speak for the majority when I say that civs should not be allowed to be rdmed whenever they want, no matter how 'realistic' it may be. This rule needs to be changed to stop these trolls.

Yea the guy who killed you, blueriddler, is apart of this group of people that does this Rdming stuff alot, and then uses the "planned terror attack" excuse. He, Ludz, and Milk do this type of stuff all the time and always get away with it.

Section 6 - Independent Rules As terrorists, Independents are permitted to kill BLUFOR, OPFOR, and PMC on sight. Independents are required to roleplay as Mujahideen Jihadists - religious extremists. Independents are permitted to beat, rob, and harass civilians who do not claim to be Muslim. Independents are permitted to take control over a small area and impose laws on civilians within. Sniping or attacking a checkpoint is permitted however once cleared, they are required to take control of the checkpoint or move on. Civilians may only be killed as part of a planned terror attack, if they do not follow direct orders, or if they pose a lethal threat (i.e firing or pointing a weapon at you or otherwise actively trying to kill you). Independents are free to reign terror anywhere on the map with the exception of safezones. Mortars and artillery can only be used during war and may not be fired into Rasman or Feruz Abad. (The highlighted red should be removed. We had someone come on the server and highly abuse this rule, he was rdming every unarmed civilian he saw claiming that it was part of his planned terror attack. Staff couldnt do anything about it even though they wanted too. This rule should either be removed or changed to be much more specific for specific circumstances.)