Remove Insurgents

[Haqqa 12]

Hi everyone, I've played Taki Life years ago and came back recently to play, considering that this is the only Taki Life server with a population left I wanted to make an observation. The server is an RDM/VDM-fest. Cops kill cops, civs kill civs, insurgents kill everyone, OPFOR... well OPFOR just kinda sits there. Now RDM isn't allowed, obviously, but I think the reason why these problems happen is because the cops(BLUFOR) can't do their jobs, they can't do police stuff because they have insurgents to deal with 90% of the time. (Disclaimer: its also partly due to there being some stupid cops too).

Now, I wanna point out in my opinion what insurgents bring to the table because, in theory, it is a good faction and realistic since there are insurgents IRL. However, it isn't being implemented properly. Insurgents are just players that want to run around and blow shit up without following civilian rules. They are no different than civilian terrorists, except they are terrorists from the get-go. Here is what insurgents can do:

• Take control of areas and RP inside them
• Conduct terrorist attacks
• Terrorist shit basically

So with that being what insurgents do, here is was civilian terrorists can do:

• Take control of areas
• Conduct terrorist attacks
• Terrorist shit

See where I'm going with this?

Now there are people that play insurgents properly, take over towns, ask me if I'm Muslim etc, but that is so rare. 90% of the time they camp and snipe CPA or invade Rasman. Now you could say that BLUFOR and OPFOR have better weapons and armor and they can deal with them and that's true, but once you kill them they come back and the cycle repeats. I honestly think that the role of insurgent is just an excuse to kill cops/opfor/pmc and that while it has some pros, they are massively outweighed by the cons, which results in a faction that is detrimental to the small amount of RP left in the server. 

Deleting the faction wouldn't even be hard, open the mission file, select everything that is independent and delete. Make the map just be North Takistan and South Takistan. Give checkpoints a purpose besides sniper practice.

If deleting insurgents is not an option, then make it so that terrorists(insurgents and civilian terrorists) need a reason to declare terror. Cop blew up your tire? Declare terror. Cop killed your buddy? Declare terror. Don't like Martial Law? Declare terror. Taxes too high? Declare terror. It shouldn't be acceptable to declare terror simply cos you wanna kill people (which I myself am guilty of).

So, I hope y'all take something from this and find a way to make the server less of a fuck-fest.

[Lt. Col. Stryder 23]

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Edited June 17, 2018 by Lt. Col. Stryder

[Mez 186]

-1 Insurgents getting removed would really kill the server population

[Lt. Col. Stryder 23]

 for Anonymous user, I saw your profile pick and I had too LOL

[Mez 186]

12 minutes ago, Lt. Col. Stryder said:

 for Anonymous user, I saw your profile pick and I had too LOL

All Might when Bakugon the exlposive kid gets taken away "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Also English DUB is much better imo

Edited June 6, 2018 by Anonymous User
Gotta speak my mind bros

[Slimbone 165]

1 hour ago, Lt. Col. Stryder said:

Since Insurgents do snipe for 2 thousand kilometres away with there AS50 TWS.

Wait I can get that as an Indie?!

Note: -1 Can't get AS50 TWS as Indie.

[Lt. Col. Stryder 23]

AS50, I'd just presume TWS since they are supporters and they get all that stuff on past Takistan Life server. But yeah, they do snipe about 2k meters away.

[Smidge Griffkin 154]

LOL.... 

Indep's give the 2 military factions and the PMC faction something to do other than sitting at a border checking passports and crossing swords with one another.... 
They are a part of this game mode and make it what it is. If we remove the Indeps we may as well remove Opfor too and disarm Blufor to a level that suits a server where there is no insurgent threat..... Doesn't sound fun at all to me. 

So... its a big fat nope from me too.

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P.s,,,, Don't sit on top of a hill in a Shilka with the sky behind you....


 

[Silkofoxx 55]

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( Ive Spent more than 300 hours on this server and have seen about 80% of indies do their job right ) 

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( If indies go where the hell can I buy tanks as a civ ) 

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( When I declare terror it's not a terror attack it's a role play for bluefor taking down a major threat the could be anywhere , Assassinations , T-55 firing from 3k + away )


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Im well known in this server and have a reputation by bluefor being in some form of tank  as a civilian , T-55 , BMP2 , Shilka ( can no longer get anymore  ) , ATGM BDRM, if indep was taken off that would be my complete role play ruined and I would leave taki life if indep was taken away because I will no longer be able to buy armor.

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If you need a decent reason to declare terror then hows this for one, I mine rubies and Diamonds and take them to each other resources. I take diamonds to rasman and then take rubies to the south, when I am declined going threw the border to do my foxx industries mining corperation and get told to go to the other resources which isn't my current location I get angry and for my customers missing out on either there rubies or diamonds getting angry at me  , I shall make them happy again and declare terror on those that stopped me making my delivery.

and some people do drugs and get sent to prison lol.

I aggree some declares seem reason less but there are players that do roleplay until something goes wrong that leads to terror role play. 

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What would opfor do without indies constantly capturing their capture point


I need to stop before I start getting Salty.

Edited June 6, 2018 by Silkofoxx

[Abdullah Al Arganeen 79]

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You've said that INDs are doing sh*t wrong, camping with sniper rifles. But, more than half of INDies arent even rich enough to buy decent sniper rifles each spawn, lol. Also, arent the cops the ones who camp with sniper rifles every day all day or bring STRYKERs with Mk19 to fight 3 guys with AKMs / FN FALs? The Indies arent a problem, the problem is with the people who fight them, that are either new to the game or dont know any tactics.

 

[S.Russo 24]

-1 I don't think indi is the problem here. BLUFOR are too incompetent to deal with them and so they turn to strykers and blow up half of rasman because they don't know any better. My opinion is that BLUFOR need actual training and need to be taught that blowing up half of the city ruins the RP aspect of the game.

[Abdullah Al Arganeen 79]

51 minutes ago, S.Russo said:

 BLUFOR are too incompetent to deal with them and so they turn to strykers and blow up half of rasman because they don't know any better.

Happaned to me yesterday,   guys have blown up 2 buildings  with Mk19 in  Truck shop because they thought im hiding in one, after their failure (Yup, they were bombing wrong building) they just casually drove off, leaving no one behind to secure area.

[Slimbone 165]

10 hours ago, Haqqa said:

then make it so that terrorists(insurgents and civilian terrorists) need a reason to declare terror. Cop blew up your tire? Declare terror. Cop killed your buddy? Declare terror. Don't like Martial Law? Declare terror. Taxes too high? Declare terror. It shouldn't be acceptable to declare terror simply cos you wanna kill people (which I myself am guilty of).

Two invading armies imposing laws on your brothers and sisters? Declares independence and puts an IED at T Junction.

Note: My IEDs make the streets safer from the Smurf and Red Smurf infadels.

[Genix 77]

37 minutes ago, SlimBone said:

Two invading armies imposing laws on your brothers and sisters? Declares independence and puts an IED at T Junction.

Note: My IEDs make the streets safer from the Smurf and Red Smurf infadels.

My SVD cleans the lands of evil Smurf invaders.

[ComradeCorbyn{Socialist} 57]

Put simply.

Indeps need to roleplay more (never once experienced an indep rp with me except when taking contracts as PMC in all 70 hours)

AND Blufor need to stop being pussies and hiding in hills with DMRs and Strykers.

I play Blufor,PMC,Indep and Opfor and I've only ever used a sniper as PMC as an assassin.

Nothing more.

Nothing less.

Blufor to me is just glorified police. But most others see it as an invasion force that should KOS things with a gun and arrest random civvies

[Mez 186]

1 hour ago, ComradeCorbyn{Socialist} said:

Indeps need to roleplay more (never once experienced an indep rp with me except when taking contracts as PMC in all 70 hours)

I roleplay as indep and it's pretty fun doing so. You encounter a faithful civ and ride in his trunk to CPR get out shouting blasting Blufor and install Sharia Law then stone the infidels.

[ComradeCorbyn{Socialist} 57]

5 minutes ago, Anonymous User said:

I roleplay as indep and it's pretty fun doing so. You encounter a faithful civ and ride in his trunk to CPR get out shouting blasting Blufor and install Sharia Law then stone the infidels.

Never seen that happen.

Doubt I ever will.

I've seen terrorists force civs to suicide bomb...

But...

[Slimbone 165]

2 hours ago, ComradeCorbyn{Socialist} said:

Never seen that happen.

Doubt I ever will.

I've seen terrorists force civs to suicide bomb...

But...

Just depends on when your on theres been many times we've made a checkpoint at truckshop and rped with civs till blufor rolled up with a vic mounted grenade launcher and leveled all of truckshop.

When i first joined the server indies could barely leave their territory without a hind or two blowing you off your bicycle. That was the Hindfor era. And every indie complained it was ruining rp. Now the tables turned. 

[Unknown 124]

Independents will not be removed.

[Haqqa 12]

I see a lot of valid points here and I would just like to address some of them. I'd also like to mention that there are Indeps that RP which is great, I have seen Indep checkpoints and the such and that's great, but it doesn't happen often, which is why I think that in the end, the Indep faction takes away more than it brings. I know that independents won't be removed, but hopefully, this will spark some discussion on how to fix some issues.

1. What would OPFOR/BLUFOR do without insurgents?
   1. Checkpoints
   2. Patrol drug area/gang areas
   3. Maybe actually stop bank robberies for a change?
2. Removing insurgents would kill server population.
   1. This is the only lively Taki Life server, where would they go? You can still blow shit up as a civvie terrorist.
3. Two invading armies imposing laws on your brothers and sisters? Declares independence (Fair point)
   1. Northern Takistan is indeed an invading army(I think?). South Takistan isn't? They are composed of Takistanis with some Russian help from what I can tell.

I will admit however, BLUFOR incompetence is also a huge factor. Maybe removing insurgents isn't the best course of action, but I'm just trying to start a discussion because, with the current state of the server, I don't see it lasting long.

[Lt. Col. Stryder 23]

True, I doubt the server will be up long. I'm seeing people leave, I actually had to get off last night cause Insurgents were camping Blufor SO hard the Civs kept robbing the bank. I lose over 500k/bank robbery.

[aleks 37]

1 hour ago, Haqqa said:

1. What would OPFOR/BLUFOR do without insurgents?
   1. Checkpoints
   2. Patrol drug area/gang areas
   3. Maybe actually stop bank robberies for a change?

Maybe Blufor would be able to rp more,but opfor would be useless.

1.People rarely go south,so opfor would sit at a checkpoint and see a civ every 30min.

2.There is only 1 gang area in south and for drug areas you can just sit with base radar.

3.The southern bank can't even be robbed.

 

Now we can remove opfor.

Instead of civil war,we now have cops vs robbers.

1 hour ago, Haqqa said:

 

1. Removing insurgents would kill server population.
   1. This is the only lively Taki Life server, where would they go?

 

If i was an indep player,i would probably play domi servers or ace.

 

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Edited June 6, 2018 by aleks

[Slimbone 165]

17 minutes ago, Lt. Col. Stryder said:

True, I doubt the server will be up long. I'm seeing people leave, I actually had to get off last night cause Insurgents were camping Blufor SO hard the Civs kept robbing the bank. I lose over 500k/bank robbery.

Was blufor working together to deal with the threat? Declare martial law for those sweet heli's which can be a daunting task to take down? Hire a pmc to take them out?

[Abdullah Al Arganeen 79]

^

True

Also, bank insurances for the win

[Haqqa 12]

19 minutes ago, aleks said:

1.People rarely go south,so opfor would sit at a checkpoint and see a civ every 30min.

2.There is only 1 gang area in south and for drug areas you can just sit with base radar.

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1. I would prefer seeing a civ every 30 min at a checkpoint that get sniped every 5.

2. If independents were removed, OPFOR would take their territory, which includes 4 more drug areas well out of the radar range.